The Significance of Saturn

Saturn and Kali or Ka & L

I’ve written about Father Time/Grim Reaper going back to Mother Time and hence the Dark Mother, the world has seen her in many forms, a prehistoric goddess and the oldest living version is Kali (Black, Time – and carrier of many weapons but the sickle one of staples) from old Hinduism (modern Hinduism to me being Vedic Hinduism aka from approx 1500BC.) I’ve also written about the feminine triad predating the masculine triads we see from/following the cradles of civilization ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia and India. I tend to refer to the Indian side of things most because their customs/beliefs/knowledge is still living, twisted and morphed over time, but still there so for me it’s easier to see the changes.

The feminine triad came from Lalita who split into three major forms; Bala, Lalita and Kali. The Daughter, the Mother and the Dark [grand]Mother/Crone. Lalita is seen as the ultimate Mother Goddess/cosmic Mother who in texts that aren’t so popular even the current pantheon admit pre-dates and is more powerful than them. I found Valdimir Nabokov’s book ‘Lolita’ to be a poignant version of this (and not romantic at all as many think it, but probably wouldn’t if it was them/their daughter) and how they took over the Earth, but in a personalized/individual rather than cosmic form.

Shortened versions of Lalita is Lal or L and in later religions people have highlighted the ‘el’ (Mum has had people say ‘elle’ to her as well – her name being Lalita). ‘El’ is both significant and frequent in the later triad of dominant world religion – Judaism, Islam and Christianity but it is usually in plural form.

Going back to Kali/Kala/Kalika though, given the spread of Indo-European languages from the India side of the Indus (and pushing aside languages already in India such as Tamil) we can see the use of Kal in many places. For example Cailleach of the Gaelic Scottish Celts (pronounced Kall-yack) whose name means ‘old woman’ and commonly ‘hag’ or ‘crone’ both of those terms associated with magic/being a witch and being a ‘dark mother’. Cailleach was/is a Mother Goddess figure. (On a sidenote Ireland had a goddess called Brigid – a number of spellings – who was later incorporated as one of the Christian saints.)

California after the Spanish story of Calafia/Califia a warrior queen of Black women is another interesting one, though bear in mind being Spanish it is a later version and significantly that story includes the use of her in the war between Islam and Christianity. Also California’s flag has a dark/Black bear (remember the bear is one of the oldest symbols of Mother Goddess) and a pentagram. Later there was the establishment of the Golden Gate Bridge and Los Angeles with its Holy Holly Wood (remember witches don’t need/have wands, it’s a phallic symbol).

Where does Saturn fit into this?

Saturn is the planet represented by Kali which makes sense since she is Mother Time. In later religion it became Kronos/Chronos and was most widely known with Graeco-Roman religion(s) (pre-Roman Catholic & Christian period but remember that he was a titan so harking back to an older race, pre-dating the Greek gods who conquered them). If you’ve seen masonic artwork of the zodiac often found in divination books (and to some freemasonic symbolism is also called ‘alchemy’) you’ve probably seen pictures of the gods in front of their representative planet and with other symbols around them. For some reason none of those are coming up in image searches I’ve been doing but here’s an interesting yet simplistic one:

Chronos Kronos Capricorn Aquarius

Chronos was both the ruler of Capricorn and Aquarius but that changed later on with Uranus taking Aquaman. The water bearer Aquarius used to just be a vase pouring water (over to Pisces) in both old Greek and Hindu zodiacs (potentially confusing for the Hindus given their girls and women carry very heavy clay pots of water on their heads short and long distance, and could break their necks but like Chronos, Capricorn/Baphomet and the rest the water bearer became male even though the job is considered too low for them).

This one was more like the ones I originally saw:

Greek Zodiac Wheel

7 planets at their time including the sun and our moon

I saw similar when researching my star sign Capricorn, whose ruler is Saturn (and whose day is Saturday) and who is represented by the Devil (commonly signifying materialism and base desires) in the tarot cards, the Devil being the goat headed satyr Baphomet with the circled pentagram. (Baphomet, one of the names being ‘Black Goat’, has very interesting symbolism and history of worship too going back to the Knights Templar, Baphomet being a Dark Goddess. Remember going back further Kali is one of the Mahavidyas or Dasha Vidyas, the Mahavidyas being 9 forms and the Dahsa being 10 since it counts the bigger unsplit form. This was long before the ‘Satan’ and the ‘Nine Angels’ connection which people jump to immediately and remember ‘Satan’ is from the Muslim word ‘Shaytan’ meaning a class of jinn-smokeless fire beings.) Interestingly Capricorn isn’t a regular goat, it’s a sea-goat – part land/part water animal and the water part being magical/mythical. The significance of water beings on this water planet Earth is something I might go into in a later post.

Saturn (and the other planets/stars) have come a long way from their goddess associations, Saturn’s Mother Goddess being the fiercest, most protective, most aware/punisher of injustice Kali Maa who has sadly become the object of many people’s (and Shiv’s) desires for her near nudity, blood and raw power. ‘The blood is the life’ goes the well-known phrase particularly menstrual blood despite it’s taboo is modern religions making women dirty and even evil, untouchable, not allowed to pray, go in ‘houses of god’, touch men even shake hands etc yet modern Hindu statues that apparently bleed are revered in the utmost and the red/pink (or ash) marks on the head of people symbolize that though ironically the coloured powder for women is made of toxic substances and the men’s one not. And it’s not just the blood – it’s the electricity – including the spinal chakra electricity (later called ‘serpent’) of kundalini, something some people are scared of and so call evil, and the creative energy nowadays known as sexual energy. More specifically when it becomes reproductive in sexual intercourse. Remember that in Earth root cultures – pre-modern Hinduism (and incorporated/twisted into it) – there is a focus on feminine androgyny i.e. asexuality and being able to self-produce, and how those who came to this planet on sailboats (possibly space ships) raped the dark woman with dark curly hair of the Earth by controlling her sexuality and making her frenzied and thereby taking over and made the ‘original feminine’ into a vessel and all her children as part of their school (like fish). Again another subject for another day.

One of misconceptions that I really dislike about the Kali-Saturn connection is that is brings up the later Shiv connection, the later god whom now Kali is apparently an ‘aspect’ of and so sexually enamoured with that she wants his creative juices even after she kills him. Her killing of demons is something she apparently enjoys (rather than just being furious at and sickened by, especially after witnessing her children/creations hurt and a popular sin is to rape females in front of Mother Goddess statues/in their templates to show the Mother Goddess means nothing, is nothing and has no power) and then takes part in necrophilia with his penis being portrayed on a mighty scale. This ‘frenzy’ is something that comes with modern Hinduism. Shiv and his pantheon being the usurpers means that he then became the Creator Destroyer, the Lord of the Dance (and lover/participant of wrestling), the Black One instead of her (even the mass statues of his penis which is prayed to separately to whole statues of him is coloured Black and significant in Islam too as a cornerstone of their religion that they revere and housed in Mecca the Black cube). It’s ironic because when I first heard about CERN proposing to build the LHC in search of/to prove the existence of the Higgs Boson aka the ‘God Particle’ I read up on said particle and even from the basic descriptions/rudimentary maths of its spin/movement I thought to myself in horrified surprise “they’re trying to build a portal for him”. The door/portal bit made sense to me but the ‘him’ being Shiv was a strange thought because anyone who knows religion/culture knows he doesn’t need a portal, he and his ilk are already here and took up residence in the Himalayas (though bear in mind it’s also a/awaiting punishment to be trapped in and under mountains) (the reason why I thought of him is one I’ll unlikely go into). At the grand LHC unveiling though, what was standing there – a donated statue of Shiv from India. I’m not sure if it really has anything to do with the God particle or Shiv but the laser like spirals they’ve unleashed into the sky worry people.

Now the ‘Saturn Cult’ as many researchers religion, freemasonry, myth and history call it is something very cruel and sinister, the victimizer rather than the slayer of the victimizer. It’s taken the blackness and morphed it into Black/dark = fear and evil, taken the natural wild/natural nudity and made it into both erotica and shame which leads to the taking the reproductive/creative of ability of blood and electricity and made it into rampant, uncontrolled and forced sexuality i.e. rape/sex abuse/prostitution/sexual murder/ritualistic abuse and vampirism/blood drinking.

There are many ‘Black’ associations in Freemasonry (although there are many ‘White’ too for the light and dark, good vs evil theatre where they play all sides and even switch back and forth e.g. the checkerboard pattern) – but the one most important here being the Black Sun. Some see that as the occult in general – the hidden – and esoteric, but it sounds more specific than that and perhaps indicates Dark Star instead.

I’ve never really thought that the sky was ‘right’ – there’s something very unreal about it me. I’ve also never been able to ‘get’ the constellations – it should be like cloud watching with someone and saying ‘hey look there’s a _____’ and then the person with you goes ‘oh yeah I see it’, perhaps they squint a bit first but it’s not too hard to imagine. Constellations though don’t even look like what they’re ‘supposed’ even when you look at the join-the-dot diagrams and even less so when the detailed drawings of the characters are superimposed. In my last post I mentioned that I always imagined the sky as sunset/sunrise (dawn/dusk) rather than Blue and cloudy and then I found similar thoughts in other cultures leading upto the ‘twilight’ description in a recent (very well written) fiction fantasy book. Part of my annoyance with ‘landmarks’ in the sky/outer space might be because people generally see them as stagnant akin to the stationary models of the solar system we’re taught with which implies all the bodies are lined up and moving together in the same direction, not taking into account that the whole system is an orbit too.

Capricorn constellation

Seriously who sees that shape without needing someone to draw/map it and point it out to them?

My ‘issue’ is that I’m interested in both the physical and the mystical/mythological side of things but I haven’t been able to explain my uncertainty about the symbolism of Saturn with the physical. Mum sees it more metaphysically – she’s better able to personify and empathise with the objects in space – whereas I look at the sky and don’t really feel anything, not even awe. I used to be able to really focus on the sun for example, to the point of it being ‘living’ in a sense with ‘beings’ and geometry inside. Nowadays when I try to concentrate on sol images of water pop into my mind and push me off that train of thought. So far I’ve been unable to verbalise to Mum why there may be more to the planets than just mythology and regular science/astronomy. However this video, an interview with Troy McLachlan on Red Ice Radio helps. I don’t agree with all of it but it got both of us thinking (and I’m glad he talks about the sky being different now to how it was which is a major factor I find it hard to explain to people into the mythological side, although it’s easier when talking about megaliths which he does too):

His website about this is:

Sidenote – modern cultural examples of seemingly friendly iconic fusion of outer space ‘divine’ with Earth into ultra masculinity and the use of Mother Goddess terms is Superman or Kal-El with the use of Lalita’s Red (name means ‘Red’ and ‘joy’) with Earth Blue. Supergirl and Superwoman (and even Superdog) came later as a kind of afterthought or perhaps from a side of rib. A bit like She-Ra (Ra-ja Ra-jeshvari another name of Lalita, and means ‘king of kings’ feminine terms but nowadays thought of as masculine, also many of the male god names are taken/added from female names, She-Ra is the ‘princess of power’ whereas He-Man doesn’t have that equivalent title though both are called the strongest woman and man), He-Man’s supposed twin sister but she had far more powers, a god-name and in her non-super form wore Red whilst he wore Purple/Pink (the fusion of Red/Blue and the dilution of Red). The Dark Goddess in that cartoon could arguably be both sorceresses, one a birdwoman who lives in a skull, and one shadow who works for a Blue skinned techno-skeleton who lives in a bone castle and whose apprentice was another skeleton.

Hidden in Plain Sight (Saturn again)

Terry Pratchett aka the man in the big Black hat – one of the UK’s former leaders in fantasy/sci-fi but also popular with the international populace in general. He expired on 12.03.15 at age 66.

I was thinking about the Scone of Stone recently – from his books it’s a dwarf made bread that’s so hard it’s only edible as a last resort and used as a weapon more often, the Scone of Stone however was sat on by a ‘Low King’ (since they live underground low actually means high, and higher than a regular provincial king in the hierarchy) of the dwarves 1500 years ago when it was still soft and so left an impression. Hence ever since the Kings (and remember this is a race where being female is taboo so they mostly pretend to be men) have sat on said stone. (Well it’s not as bad as sitting on a popular public transport route seat I guess that’s had millions of bums on it.)

The above reminded me of the ‘London Stone’. Every time I passed its box at 111 Cannon Street (a highstreet, and that address has seen many shop changes) I’d stop and stare at it for a while and it was like I’d slowed down to think whilst masses of people would just walk by like it wasn’t there, never existed and was insignificant. There are more stones like that in the UK and Ireland including the Stone of Scone that the current Elizardbeth like many before her was coronated with it under her butt.

Now look at this cover, what is out of place?

Terry Pratchett Blink of the Screen Saturn Death Time Masonic Symbolism

Yes I noticed it at first too and thought “why is that here, that’s weird” and promptly put it out of my mind o_o I’d just been looking at it every day and reading a bit for the past week.

Then I wrote ‘Saturn and Kali or Ka & L‘ post and the next day Mum said to me:
“Look at that”
“eh? Por quoi?”
“Look at that [plonker]” *pointing at the cover*
“Oh my gosh!”
“Finish reading it and see if it’s in there”
*Does as told, she gets tired waiting…”
“This is the answer [stupid]!” *turns book around to reveal:*

Terry Pratchett Blink of the Screen Saturn Death Time Masonic Symbolism

“Oh. My. Gosh”
“You’re so silly, how could not notice it!?”
“Eh…. … But… But you told me to read it and you were right, to check it just in case!”
“I was testing you!”
“But I still have to finish it!”
“I’ve already found the answer [dopey]”
*I continue reading anyway* “There’s more to it, look at the border, see it looks like a castle or cave and that statue in the bottom left, and the Blue computer spiral like a fingerprint in the background.”

… Time passes by, no mention of Saturn…
“I found where the border came from but not the centurions”
“The centurions?”
“The Watch” *pointing them out*
“The what?”
“The Watchmen there in the bottom right.”
“The what?”
“The Watch, the police, the Ankh-Morpork police force!”
“Oh them”
“Yes them”
“What do they matter?”
“They’re not in the artwork in the book for one, they’ve been added to the scene, and look at their expressions they’re scared and ready to attack.”
“Scared of what?”
“Look their scared of him, their Maker/Creator, the writer with his books [knowledge]. Whilst he’s surrounded by Death’s domain and when he looks up he can see Saturn looking down at him with its polar vortex, the ‘Eye of Saturn’ [the All Seeing Eye]**”
“We already knew that”
“Yes but!”
“What’s the”
“There’s more!”

And just so you know, this is the back inlay cover:

Terry Pratchett Blink of the Screen Saturn Death Time Masonic Symbolism

The important thing here is that as aforementioned Saturn isn’t any of the stories within, a couple of possible allusions but they don’t relate to it in their context. Also the majority of Pratchett’s work was hand illustrated by Josh Kirby (died 2001, age 72) followed by Paul Kidby (still living). The image of Saturn however is not in the illustration of Death’s domain, it’s a photograph and/or cgi. It’s an eyesore design wise, out of place, not part of the background photo with the books because it’s not in the perspective plus it’s clear and they’re blurred, what would be the point of leaving it sharpened? It’s meant to be there imposingly.

Also the picture of Death in disco gear (which is funny because Mum’s favourite style ever is Punk – which combines her other two faves Goth and Biker but looks like it vomited fluorescence over them and doesn’t need to go together in any way, yet is still cool – and she was saying this morning how she’s going to look Punk again. I told her that Death is wearing 70’s clothing but she’d already been there, done that, didn’t want to talk about it again and said “it’s still punk and I’ve been talking to you about massive shoes for a while haven’t I, especially Red ones”, “Yes, you have.” *Deep breath*.) As I was saying, the picture of Death at the disco is actually from the story ‘Turntables of the Night’ (1989):

Terry Pratchett Blink of the Screen Saturn Death Time Masonic Symbolism

The story features a couple of guys, one a music aficionado collector who collects for the sake of collecting every piece of music that’s ever existed on vinyl, and the other his mate who looks after him. Death visits a Hallowe’en party they’re DJ’ing at to raise money for the church… And only the collector can see him but his friend notices a space on the dancefloor that people aren’t avoiding exactly, they’re just not going into it like they don’t notice it, but seeing the state his friend is in he braves it. In doing so he can almost see but definitely hear Death’s voice in and around him asking to be introduced to his friend. Once he and the collector get talking Death states that he too is a collector, he has all the greats; Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon…
“Fairly wide spread, musically… Have you got the complete Beatles?”

Apparently due to an overload of sockets, connectors irresponsibly put together and bad/old wiring there’s an electrical fire and the church burns. The collector’s friend and the other guests are outside but the collector is nowhere to be seen, no remnants of him at all. That is very strange for Death the Grim Reaper who usually cuts the soul away and leaves the body.

** The All Seeing Eye/Eye of Saturn is a hexagram that later became known at the six pointed star in masonic symbolism.

Death's 'parasite dimension' illustrated for the book 'Mort' (1987)

Death’s ‘parasite dimension’ illustrated for the book ‘Mort’ (1987)


Many people credit Pratchett for his imagination but anyone who knows about world culture/customs/religion/history knows he knew too. Like other authors he did his research, in his case it started early, the first published short story in this book was written in 1963 (an important number and indeed date for some) when he was 13 (again another important one and indeed it’s known as ‘Kali’s number’ though like many old things has been twisted over time). In that story a boy named Crucible plays double agent making a deal with both God and the Devil (‘The Hades Business’) and highlights Pratchett’s knowledge of religion and folklore (one of his companion books mentions a comprehensive book of mythology and folklore he bought as a young boy). He continued to build upon and use that knowledge for his characters/situations/world building, sometimes he just changed names, others the info got twisted and added to. When he parodied (which is the point of Discworld and Ankh-Morpork [London]) it stood out to people who were/are educated in those areas like his books about Macbeth and The Phantom of the Opera did to even more people.

What he was great at was re-packaging, making the stories relatable and hilarious. His work had layer after layer of info, even the jokes needed to be read over. His name was a master tinkerer (like The Borrower-esque characters he wrote about separate to Discworld), not original in substance but in style.

‘A Blink of the Screen’ was published in 2012, the same year a ‘The Long Earth’ co-written with Stephen Baxter (expanded from Terry’s short story ‘The High Meggas’ – 1986 – where characters are ‘stepping’ (like the ‘jaunting’ of ‘The Tomorrow People’ UK tv show 1973-79) through the layers of reality on Earth), a book I’ve previously said disappointed me greatly for in my opinion towing the masonic ‘party line’, but this collection of short stories has more of his usual style. There’s something in here for everyone topic wise but a few are very ‘dark’, the ones in first person where the protagonist is an ‘average guy’ not too bright or imaginative but has his feet on the ground witnesses and becomes involved in the strangest things; to killing his own creation (hero in a book) who then turns up on his door step to receive his reward and the reward plus reality gets inverted (‘Final Reward’ – 1988), another where virtual reality and ‘real’ reality again get confused but apparently people thought it a safe and fun hobby at first reducing crime because people were doing it in their heads instead including getting rape off the streets for an increase in virtual prostitution (akin to raping whilst the victim is unconscious), making zombies out of the people playing and even though it doesn’t leave physical bruises it can still cause massive stress and kill them but apparently it’s romantic and loving for the creator of such reality. An entertainment addiction for everybody else (‘#ifdefDEBUG + ‘world/enough’ + time’ – 1990). Then another where Merlin oops Mervin is a time traveller who got stuck in Albion, rigs the sword in the stone looking for Arthur ‘Artos the Bear’ but ends up with Ursula (remember my post about Disney’s ‘Brave’), Latin for Bear (‘Once and Future’ – 1995 – there’s a marker around the page number 174), the constellations and an old form of Mother Goddess worship. Interestingly enough he also mentions women’s suffrage in that and women water bearers, he shows that the recommendation to pipe the water directly to people’s homes wouldn’t be allowed because the men don’t carry the water and so wouldn’t see the point in it (remember my mention of Aquarius in my previous post – water bearers are traditionally female and Aquarius used to be represented just by a vase pouring water but changed to a male carrier but it is seen as a heavy, tedious and inferior job for males. Another reason is that the Earth was sacred and female, so only women could mine for metals or carry it’s life giving elements for example, otherwise it was raping Mother Earth – but not many people remember that and those hard jobs became of many that most people didn’t want to do so fobbed it off on those who they call/think of as weaker than themselves). And a poem where he tried to write like his 13 year old self again, about how parents teach their kids about life and death via pets (‘The Secret Book of the Dead’ – 1991).

The person who wrote the foreword had a similar experience as I did with Pratchett’s work, we were both offput by the artwork so avoiding reading them until we finally did and were hooked. That was strange for me as I don’t usually judge a book by it’s cover, Mum however does and sometimes brings selections of books for me to read, one of which was either ‘The Colour of Magic’ or ‘The Light Fantastic’. I said to her it was a two-parter and when she went to the library could she get me the other one, after that the next time I went to the local (and others) I came back with armloads of them. One of the librarians had said “cor, I like Pratchett but I’ve never read so many at once, how are you going to carry them?” A man at a bookstore gave me a knowing nod and said “good choice”. After reading many of the books, I realized that the grotesque characterizations in the artwork were fitting. I never made it to one of the Discworld conventions though even before I knew about all the symbolism I’d intended to go as Death, it being my favourite character, followed by the Nac Mac Feegle and The Luggage. I wonder how I would have replied had that librarian said “ook”. That said I’m not as reverential as Byatt is in his foreword.

Additionally if I were Tiffany in ‘The Shepherd’s Crown’ I wouldn’t enlist the help of the old guys who helped make/perpetuate the problem let alone the Elf King and give the Dark Mother’s steading to Geoffrey. I dinnae like most of those witches either 😉